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In Plain Sight: Jaycee Dugard

It was the anwer to a mother's prayers: Jaycee Dugard, kidnapped at age 11, was found alive. But why did it take 18 years to find her? And what could have been done to stop her alleged kidnapper sooner? Dateline investigates.

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{"commentId":9849944,"authorDomain":"Clown74"}

Fascinating show. Despite how much I would like to point my finger at a single source, the sheriff is absolutely correct. We should not hold one person accountable for the years that Jaycee was held captive. This was a house of cards. Multiple people and circumstances are responsible.

This is another reason to take a step back and honestly examine the flaws within our entire system in order to make it the best in the world.

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Reply#1 - Fri Oct 2, 2009 10:11 PM EDT
{"commentId":9850489,"authorDomain":"torri-osman"}

How can you say that, Megans law was in effect when? I have three children and I know they are not safe. I tell them all the time if someone takes you fight for your life, because they will take it anyway in some shape or form. This woman is 29 she has no chance at a normal life! I don't care how much counseling you get the scars are there for a lifetime! This is not a happy ending this is a sad unspeakable tragedy!

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    #1.1 - Fri Oct 2, 2009 10:52 PM EDT
    {"commentId":9854747,"authorDomain":"michelle410"}

    I totally agree with you, what a terrible thing for a girl to endure and have to live with forever. I pray for her and her daughters everyday, God Bless them.

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      #1.2 - Sat Oct 3, 2009 10:01 AM EDT
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      {"commentId":9850302,"authorDomain":"torri-osman"}

      How could this happen! Everybody in this case should be held accountable. The parole officer the many EMS workers who responded to the 911 calls the Police dept. This is a picture book case of gross negligence! This happened right in front of everyone for 18 YEARS! GET INVOLVED! If you think somethimg is wrong report it, follow up on it! Get it taken care of! This sickens me to think there are that many people out there, that dont't want to get involved even if they know something is not right! This child could have been returned to her parents years ago! Step Up and do the right thing!

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      Reply#2 - Fri Oct 2, 2009 10:38 PM EDT
      {"commentId":9888495,"authorDomain":"natalie-fl"}

      I agree. Why did they dismiss the calls from the neighbor's girlfriend who reported the girls living in the backyard? Wouldn't it be common sense for a cop to show up and CHECK to see if it's true instead of asking the perpetrator? What did they expect Phil to say, "yes, I have a kidnapped girl I raped, got pregnant, and had children with living in my yard in tents, come arrest me"? The parole officer and everyone failed this girl and her family miserably; lots of lost time that could have been given back to Jaycee had these people done their JOB. And they get to keep their job? Wow, all I can tell you is if I screwed up in my job, especially THAT badly, by putting someone's life at risk, my butt would be out on the street.

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        #2.1 - Mon Oct 5, 2009 4:34 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":9851553,"authorDomain":"sallysue23"}

        I'm so glad that Jaycee is home being reunited with her family. I hope how soon she can get over this ordeal if she can so she can go on with her life. I hope that Dateline continues to bring us more information on this story. I also hope that everybody remembers her & her family in their Prayers.

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        Reply#3 - Sat Oct 3, 2009 12:17 AM EDT
        {"commentId":9855956,"authorDomain":"goodtogo"}

        So many red flags in this California horror story which proves the old saying that "when some folks trip over the truth they simply stand up, brush themselves off, and pretend nothing happened." Why does law enforcement rely on technology (such as ankle monitors) rather than solid police work? Creepy Phil fell off everybody's radar including the FBI in a poorly patrolled semi-rural haven of sexual predators. This case has generated endlessly lame excuses - that fence was too doggone high; so what if little girls were observed in backyard tents?; the deputy sent to "investigate" had worked a long shift, poor guy; California simply has too many felons; law officers could do a better job if they got raises; Phil's parole officer, according to his supervisors, followed department rules (yet for 18 years of home visits consistently failed to see evidence of children on the property - how could he miss a swing set, trampoline, a colorful tricycle, tents and bright blue tarps?) - but because he woke up when told that this sexual predator in his charge was on a college campus with girls he probably will get a medal. And when no less than a child safety advocate, neighbor and printing customer of this "gentleman" hears him remark about plucking a child from a group of children, she just shrugged him off. Neighbors joked that Creepy Phil probably had someone locked in his basement; drunken immigrants were observed lined up on the property with cash in hand for nocturnal thrills... the mind boggles, especially when J. Dugard's stepfather provided accurate descriptions of both the abductor and the car that were aired on national TV repeatedly soon after the kidnapping. Is it too much to ask that even one person in the community connect the great big dots? I suspect that all this is normal for the California justice system and its laid back live-and-let-live population. What a disgrace.

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        Reply#4 - Sat Oct 3, 2009 11:51 AM EDT
        {"commentId":9856045,"authorDomain":"goodtogo"}

        So many red flags in this California horror story which proves the old saying that "when some folks trip over the truth they simply stand up, brush themselves off, and pretend nothing happened." Why does law enforcement rely on technology (such as ankle monitors) rather than solid police work? Creepy Phil fell off everybody's radar including the FBI in a poorly patrolled semi-rural haven of sexual predators. This case has generated endlessly lame excuses - that fence was too doggone high; so what if little girls were observed in backyard tents?; the deputy sent to "investigate" had worked a long shift, poor guy; California simply has too many felons; law officers could do a better job if they got raises; Phil's parole officer, according to his supervisors, followed department rules (yet for 18 years of home visits consistently failed to see evidence of children on the property - how could he miss a swing set, trampoline, a colorful tricycle, tents and bright blue tarps?) - but because he woke up when told that this sexual predator in his charge was on a college campus with girls he probably will get a medal. And when no less than a child safety advocate, neighbor and printing customer of this "gentleman" hears him remark about plucking a child from a group of children, she just shrugged him off. Neighbors joked that Creepy Phil probably had someone locked in his basement; drunken immigrants were observed lined up on the property with cash in hand for nocturnal thrills... the mind boggles, especially when J. Dugard's stepfather provided accurate descriptions of both the abductor and the car that were aired on national TV repeatedly soon after the kidnapping. Is it too much to ask that even one person in the community connect the great big dots? I suspect that all this is normal for the California justice system and its laid back live-and-let-live population. What a disgrace.

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          Reply#5 - Sat Oct 3, 2009 11:57 AM EDT
          {"commentId":9857184,"authorDomain":"BrentScha"}

          If there is any justice left in the U.S.A. Phillip Garrito needs to Die and Quickly, the tax payers do not need to pay Millions of dollars to prosecute this man it's an open and shut case, no one can argue he's innocent.

          If the tax payers would have only invested in a 25 cent bullet after Garritos first arrest for kidnaping and rape, this Dugard case would not have happened!

          I can't tell you how mad this situation makes me! Persons living in the U.S. need to know these actions won't be tolerated, and there are life and death consequences for conduct like this.

          When will the People realize it costs at least $40,000 a year to house prisoners, A life time sentence for this guy would be over 2 million dollars, Is this kidnaper/rapest worth your 2 million dollars? And that's only 1 person like that!

          The justice system is broken, it should not be about making money for privet industry and multiplying it year after year, It should be about Right and Wrong and keeping the public safe.

          Keeping people like Garrido behind bars for 10 years when he was suppose to be behind bars for life only to parol him, when there is a high probability he will do this again, helps no one! Just ask his first victim..... and his latest.......


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          • 2 votes
          Reply#6 - Sat Oct 3, 2009 1:26 PM EDT
          {"commentId":9858988,"authorDomain":"billop"}

          Hopefully some day Kelly Brosnahan will get to meet her childhood friend again. Part of Jaycee's rehabilitation, I would think, would be resocializing with people her own age - something apparently denied her so many years. The original abduction took place not far from my home and many is the time since her reappearance I have rejoiced in her rescue but also prayed for that family (Dugard/Probyn's) in the work that lies ahead.

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          Reply#7 - Sat Oct 3, 2009 3:51 PM EDT
          {"commentId":9868927,"authorDomain":"xwood"}

          First, we are a SEX orientated culture. We judge people according to the money they have and their sex abilities. Second, this low-life deserves the worse punishment the govt. can give. He made a horrendous immoral decision no matter what his circumstances were. At present, our world believes in no slaves. The Universe will judge him further after he dies. (his wife included) Third, we have a responsibility to our culture to not emphasis, the idea that the self is the most important and therefore the self can do anything that popps in ones head. Having said that we also must recognize that most of these kind of horrors are committed by people that are poor and stressed out, so we need to begin to care for them.

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            Reply#8 - Sun Oct 4, 2009 12:05 PM EDT
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            {"commentId":9888673,"authorDomain":"natalie-fl"}

            This man should never have been allowed out of jail. Parole? For a serial rapist? Are you kidding me? We wouldn't have the problem about where to house these people if we never let them out in the first place, and for brutal people like Phil who like to constantly hurt children, I recommend ending their life. We don't need to worry about him going back on the streets or wasting our taxpayer money if they just end his life. Even THAT is more humane that raping someone. Now all these women who suffered at his hands feel like our justice system failed them and their nightmares are revisited when seeing this man's face on TV. I cannot even begin to understand how poor Kate felt when the man who had abducted and raped her came back to her place of employment and threatened her, instead of having stayed put in jail for life like she originally thought he would. It's time to get strict about rape and any crimes inflicted on children; our lax attitude towards these beasts is what is allowing these people to get away with this in the first place.

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              Reply#9 - Mon Oct 5, 2009 4:43 PM EDT
              {"commentId":9893933,"authorDomain":"sally-price"}

              I strongly feel the Dateline program on Garrido on 10/2/09 missed the boat. The horrible crime shows the need for reform of our sex offender laws. The sex offender registries are so filled with "sex offenders" with much less serious crimes - such as 2 teenagers having consensual sex or an innocent person framed by a manipulative ex-wife - that it's impossible for law enforcement to keep up with the real molesters. Only 7 percent of those listed on sex offender registries are violent sexual predators who molest children they don't know. The vast majority - 93% - are either innocent or have as their victims family members or family friends. We don't need to toughen laws that are not working as showed by studies (Please see Richard G. Wright's book, "Sex Offender Laws: Failed Policies, New Directions."). We need new effective laws based on current research that can truly be enforced. Sex crimes are the only crimes that are not differentiated based on severity. Certainly stealing a candy bar is not treated the same as robbing a bank. Yet we treat "sex crimes" all alike. Let's go after those violent sex predators who deserve the full force and attention of law enforcement. For the facts that we ought to be paying attention to, go to reformsexoffenderlaws.org

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                Reply#10 - Mon Oct 5, 2009 9:24 PM EDT
                {"commentId":9894640,"authorDomain":"sally-price"}

                The Dateline program on Garrido missed the boat. It should have emphasized the need for sex offender law reform. It's clear from the Garrido case our laws are not working. The sex offender registries are so over-loaded with people who have committed far lesser crimes that law enforcement cannot keep track of the real child molesters. Sex offenders who are strangers to the children they molest make up only 7% of sex offender registries. The vast majority - 93% - have offended children in their family or a family they know well. There are also a number of innocent people on the lists who have been framed by manipulative ex-spouses or may be teenagers who were having consensual sex. In some states, even urinating in public or mooning someone is considered a "sex crime." We don't need to toughen laws that are not working. Richard G. Wright explains in his 2009 book, "Sex Offender Laws: Failed Policies, New Directions," that studies show our current laws are not only not working but may even be making our children more vulnerable. We need new laws that focus on the 7% violent sex offenders to make certain they are kept away from society. Sex crimes are the only crimes that are not differentiated based on severity. Stealing a candy bar is treated differently than robbing a bank, yet all sex crimes are treated alike. For the facts, see Wright's book or visit reformsexoffenderlaws.org.

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                  Reply#11 - Mon Oct 5, 2009 10:16 PM EDT
                  {"commentId":9956396,"authorDomain":"brendaalansmom"}

                  This story does not surprise me,this system don't work! When offenders are on (paper) on parole out on probation, someone needs to keep tabs on them,in other words DO THEIR JOB ! Our story was aired on DATELINE on AUGUST 14 2009 "DOWN BY THE RIVER" so I know how law enforcement DON'T DO THEIR JOB. MayGOD bless this family because it was 23years we looked,begged,prayed for HELP. BRENDA SIMPSON

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                    Reply#12 - Thu Oct 8, 2009 11:36 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":10002580,"authorDomain":"maryelizabeth42"}

                    It has been proven that there is no way to cure or rehabilitate child molesters and violent sexual predators.Every time we hear about one of these tragic stories nine times out of ten it is a repeat offender. When will our justice system finally wake up and treat these criminals in the only fashion that gaurantees the publics safety? Lifetime incarceration from the first offense.

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                      Reply#13 - Sat Oct 10, 2009 6:54 PM EDT
                      {"commentId":10005803,"authorDomain":"clmportage"}

                      Creepy Phil needs a bullet to the head...Personally, I'ld rather see him tortured. But we are busting at the seems with creeps like this...and should gas them in masses like we do unwanted animals...and the poor animals are innocent...Our Judicial System is F*cked up...When a whole group of people with a position of power deemed Phil fit to return to society...and then time after time sensible folks were given hints that something was amiss with this guy...Everyone dropped the ball...It's a GOD awful situation...and the wife...she should be brutally beaten to death as well. Really...society has no use for humans like these...can't we just kill them? Where is Dexter when you need him!

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                        Reply#14 - Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:19 PM EDT
                        {"commentId":10005898,"authorDomain":"clmportage"}

                        I would also like to add...My prayers go out to all Creepy Phils victims...especially Jaycee and her daughters...No amount of counseling will ever erase the scars...but for the time being, hopefully, Jaycee being back with her mother will bring her some peace. Day by day, I hope little things bring the family bits and pieces of happiness...I'm not sure what the future holds for Jaycee...but hopefully, her daughters have a chance to now move beyond this.

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                          Reply#15 - Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:28 PM EDT
                          {"commentId":10091843,"authorDomain":"blameugrad"}

                          Once again a monster is revealed. Once again the public is outraged, horrified, and in search of answers. "How can something like this happen?,' many ask. The answer is simple - evil is... Another truth, evil will always be. More truth, looking to others, whether it be special interest groups, legislatures, advocates, law enforcement, etc., to guarantee our safety or the safety of those we love is both folly and futile. In fact, what most seek is a way to standby in horror, bemoan the ineffectiveness of those who we are entrusting many of our individual responsibilities, an opportunity to point the finger of blame, and then be returned to our varied distractions. We rale about the dangers within our neighborhoods and cities, we wring our hands in response to the sensationalism and titillation we demand and receive from our media sources, then we clamor for more ineffectual protections from our overseers - always at the cost of conpromised freedoms - and then experience the same shock and indignation when faced with yet another failure to prevent evil acts. In most every instance individuals can do the most to promote the safety of oneself or that of those we love. However, doing so takes much more commitment than does finger pointing. In this particular instance, Creepy Phil would have been thwared in his intent to abduct Jaycee had the stepfather or any other adult been immediately present - that does not mean down the street. The woman that was abducted and raped years earlier should not have stopped for any stranger, much less welcome him into her car. No, I am not blaming victims. But if there is an element of irresponsibility then those whom it fits should wear it, and each of us should learn from it. It is no more possible to put a cop on every corner than it is rational to believe that any law will ensure or even approximate guaranteed safety - regardless of enforcement levels or restrictiveness. Sex offender registry laws, for example, are a knee-jerk emotional reaction pushed through legislaturers by special interests and public outcries. On the surface they look good, feel good (safety assummed), and such legislation certainly makes it more likely that those sponsoring such bills, as well as those who vote for its passage, will further their careers. However, these registries create illusions of safety. Proof exists that they do not work, that they are not in anyway a deterrant, and that we are no safer as a result. Better results are realized when one makes a commitment to active involvement, aggressive vigilance, dedication to parenting and the relinguishment of selfish interests. Do not entrust the safety of the ones you love to others unless you are willing to accept a portion of the blame. Work fewer hours, live in more modest lifestyle, forego that new SUV or minivan, compromise your own selfish interests for the sake of your kids. They will be safer. You will be less afraid. All will be freer. In the end, evil will still be done. It cannot be eliminated. But each of us can provide it fewer opportunities, if we commit to our personal responsibilities.

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                            Reply#16 - Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:45 AM EDT
                            {"commentId":10097799,"authorDomain":"sallysue23"}

                            I seen the People Magazine with the picture of Jaycee on the front cover. She has grown up to be a very beautiful lady. She still looks the same, but with that older look. She looks so happy in that photo & I pray that she is able to continue that happy look. She will need all the prayers she can get when the decide to start a trial. Even her children will need prayers too.

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                              Reply#17 - Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:24 PM EDT
                              {"commentId":10113320,"authorDomain":"dalton9529"}

                              I don't see anyone talking about how bias effects this case. My point being that dispite facts, most people are irrational about how they see threat. I mean that the reality is that this guy had been convisted of this kind of crime before. However, the fact that he was a genial small white man trumped the facts.

                              No one can believe that a black man convicted of rape and kidnapping of white girls would have got away with this for 18 years.

                              We are not post racial yet. We are not a merit based society yet. We are closer though.

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                                Reply#18 - Fri Oct 16, 2009 1:22 AM EDT
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                                {"commentId":10421859,"authorDomain":"terrylo"}

                                there needs to be new laws regarding sex offenders. we can fill our prisons with white collar offenders, say our prisons are over crowded, but what about imposing community service for lesser crimes and lock up the sicko's that are attacking our children!

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                                  Reply#19 - Mon Nov 2, 2009 8:23 AM EST
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