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Children 'saved me,' Michael Jackson said

Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, a friend and counselor to Michael Jackson, taped conversations with the King of Pop for two years. With Jackson's permission to later share the recordings, the two discussed Jackson's most painful childhood memories, his feelings toward women, his intense loneliness, and more. Dateline NBC has revealed the tapes for the first time.

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{"commentId":9716809,"authorDomain":"angela-pridgen"}

I am sitting here watching "The Michael Jackson Tapes", and my heart is falling apart by the second. I was not a child of abuse, however I am a survivor of Domestic violence and rape. My childrens father raped me and severely beat me on a daily basis for almost two years and as a result was incarcerated for it. I know EXACTLY the feeling he is expressing to The Rabbi as he tells him of feeling faint and nauseated because of the overwhelming need for approval and fear that tortures your soul in the abuser's presence. Knowing that you fear the very person that you love, the fear of not knowing what that person could or will do to you the next time you see them. The butterflies in your stomach, not from love or exitement, but from dread and the unknowing of what each day would bring. My God, he has lived his whole life in fear, whether or not his father was next to him or not. The lingering despair and sorrow that poor man must have suffered...every moment...every instance of his entire life. I was a Michael Jackson fan as a teenager growing up. I am now 38 years old and have lived quite a life, but my heart simply breaks for him and his family. I feel connected to him on a level of suffering and pain now that I have heard your broadcast. Hearing his voice and the sadness in it. He is simply a man...an amazing man who found happiness in bringing to others the happiness he unfortunately could not obtain himself.

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    Reply#1 - Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:00 PM EDT
    {"commentId":9724184,"authorDomain":"mommamarrs"}

    So very well put. I agree 100%, and am a survivor of abuse as a child as well. His voice is so lonely, so longing, afraid, vulnerable and sad. May he rest in eternal peace and know he was loved by so many people. RIP Michael, we'll miss you.

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      #1.1 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:45 PM EDT
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      {"commentId":9716865,"authorDomain":"Susan-1368923"}

      I'm sorry but how many times can we here about Michael Jackson's life story through others eyes/opinions! Giving nothing more than these so called "friends" that new him well, fame. Rabbi Shmuley should have stepped in and helped Michael, not step away when Michael was in such pain. Yes, a "man of the cloth" or another greedy person to make money off of Michael Jackson. Let Michael Jackson rest in peace and continue to enjoy what he has given us through the decades.

      Susan

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      Reply#2 - Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:05 PM EDT
      {"commentId":9720375,"authorDomain":"r-abe"}

      Susan-1368923

      I agree, just another money hungry POS, there will be many people that will be out there using Michael as a means to make money and I for one will never support their efforts by purchasing their Book of any other item they may sell ........

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      #2.1 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:30 AM EDT
      {"commentId":9725057,"authorDomain":"adriana7"}

      I have no doubts these tapes are real. I am just not sure MJ would have wanted them released, maybe the convos were taped for therapy sessions purposes (to have a log of topics covered).

      It just feel like this guy is cashing in on MJ's death as many already did. The fact that he left him in 2001 says a lot. If he is a man of the clergy, he should do what the Bible says and always plant the seed and water it, no matter what. Never give up, because you never know when something you say will make it all click and make a difference.

      The Rabbi stopped after less than 2 years, which goes against what he, as a man of the clergy should do and stand for.

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      #2.2 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:16 PM EDT
      {"commentId":9806415,"authorDomain":"cewash3"}

      I agree with u. This man was in a business deal, Heal the World foundation, with Michael in 2001. A speech Michael gave at Oxford confirms this. But something happened between them, apparently. So now he is looking to cash-in one way or another. We all know that Michael was a hands on person, so even if what this man claims is true, he had 7-8 years to verify and update this info. with Michael. He didn't...I think Michael never thought this tape would be used. I don't trust anyone who claims they are" former anythings" especially when he called Michael a "stupid, stupid man". No true friendship there. He's out for a payday..don't support this evil.

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        #2.3 - Wed Sep 30, 2009 10:59 PM EDT
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        {"commentId":9717043,"authorDomain":"SandraJ"}

        To Meredith, could you have scowled any more? You looked like you were in pain the entire interview! It was an interview not to reveal the voice behind the man but to reveal the most painful aspects of his life in a condescending way. You and the Rabbi should be ashamed of yourselves. We all see how much it pained Michael to be betrayed. With friends like the ones he had in Rabbi Schmuley, you could say he was just bitter. This interview was designed to be unflattering and an intentional motive AGAIN to bring down the King of Pop; this time posthumously.

        Secondly, you have to be Christian who knows the gift of God's love for redemption through the Son of God, Jesus, to know that dominion and power on Earth was given to mankind. Through the blood of Jesus, the power to heal is a gift, empowered by the Holy Spirit which lives in you--if you are born again. Obviously this would be difficult for a Jewish man practicing a Jewish lifestyle to fathom. To make fun of Michael believing he had healing power is a sad commentary for Rabbi Schumley. Just another betrayal. Shameful.

        Michael would have had to be more like Madonna, basically an immoral person, for people like you to leave him alone. Go write/expose something on Linsay Lohan or someone like that. Leave Michael to rest in peace. I for one won't be buying the Rabbi's book.

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        Reply#3 - Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:20 PM EDT
        {"commentId":9725112,"authorDomain":"adriana7"}

        MJ LOVED THE WORLD WITH ALL HIS HEART, it was an UNCONDITIONAL LOVE and he really wanted to HEAL IT, STOP WARS and DESTRUCTION and have people find a common ground IN LOVE and GOODNESS and SHARING !

        He was a great man.

        People he cared for abused his trust & deceived him, his father abused him verbally and physically; and, worst of all the media/press raped and stripped him of his dignity publicly and hounded him mercilessly.

        And through it all he SMILED!

        I wonder how many of us would withstand the same introspection into our lives and how we would handle the pain. Before we cast stones at MJ, we should imagine ourselves in his life and ask ourselves how would we manage it?

        Only THOSE WITH NO SIN CAN JUDGE him, not us.

        Michael, you were too good for this world, for the people here, for the decadence of the community around us. You are finally up with the angels, where you belong, may you RIP ! We will do our best to CARRY ON YOUR LOVE and SELFLESSNESS and teach it to our little ones.

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        #3.1 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:20 PM EDT
        {"commentId":12093049,"authorDomain":"angela90"}

        You are right! Just put yourself in his shoes. The pain that he felt was unbearable! He was so strong, but let's not forget he was also simply a human. The trials and allegations had taken a toll on him. We felt your pain

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          #3.2 - Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:52 AM EST
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          {"commentId":9717082,"authorDomain":"asia-lanae"}

          This is just so upsetting.

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            Reply#4 - Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:24 PM EDT
            {"commentId":9717113,"authorDomain":"berryc52"}

            Brother Rabbi,

            why should we believe your opinion of micheal Jackson? You betrayed him. I am sure if MJ knew you were seeing dollar signs, during your recording counseling session, he would have never discussed his personal life, and deep feelings about life and others (females) with you. Keep in mind, MJ was a very private individual. Your honesty is questionable. MONEY is your motive. Your are getting rich from the horrilble death of MJ. I hope you have peace in your life. Money is your true happiness, not the life of MJ and the greatness of his career.

            Why are you angry about his fatherless children? Just remember you are not helping the kids by putting out more garbage about their father. What make you think that the Jackson kids what to hear what you said about their father? Think about it...you have not gave them any clarity about their father you just added more fuel to the fire!!! If you are hurt about the kids...Why don't you give the Jackson kids the proceeds from the book. Remember you said they were fatherless don't you think you owe them that much?????

            Share the wealth that you making off of their father!!!!!!!!

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              Reply#5 - Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:27 PM EDT
              {"commentId":9717142,"authorDomain":"diamondgirl1"}
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              {"commentId":9717213,"authorDomain":"carolynca"}

              The exploitation continues. Why is the media so fixated on MJs personal life?? and now uses personal and confidential tapes to exploit his family bringing more pain to them. Real news appears to be a dying concept with the striking decline in ethical journalists/reporters, as in this specific example (mv). But what should I expect from a propaganda network that hires Bashir after knowingly slandering MJ. Your network has lost my respect again. So very disappointing.

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              Reply#7 - Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:38 PM EDT
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              {"commentId":9717340,"authorDomain":"mjfan-2"}

              God Bless Michael Jackson, he was the most tormented man in America. He did not deserve the treatment he received by the media during his trial. Instead of covering his trial in an fair way they covered whatever problems he was having getting to court, etc. to my great dismay at the time. You could see that by the end of the trial in 2005 that the trial was having a very bad physical effect on him, he looked like he was deeply wounded, barely able to function, had lost a lot of weight, etc. He was found not guilty but everyone seemed to think that he was guilty anyway.

              My heart breaks for this man, I was not a huge fan before but the more I read about him since his death the more respect I have for his accomplishments and his character. Yes, he was eccentric to say the least but why should his oddness make him a huge target for the media. His life was a triumph as well as a tragedy.

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              Reply#8 - Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:52 PM EDT
              {"commentId":9717344,"authorDomain":"lisadanielle"}

              I thought this was an excellent interview and very fair. The thing I like most about Shmuley coming forward is that we get to hear Michael in his own words (i.e. the truth from Michael's perspective). I totally understood both Shmuley's friendship with Michael and his decision to end that friendship (even though he still cared for Michael). The show tonight also revealed some of the deeper thoughts and feelings of Michael that haven't been expressed to the public before. Again, I have to say that the interview was very well-balanced, respectful, researched, and thorough. Well done.

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                Reply#9 - Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:52 PM EDT
                {"commentId":9719892,"authorDomain":"abcnewsgo"}

                Fair, his guy stole from a charity and hasn't seen Michael in years. He was dropped, he didn't drop Michael. What a liar. He never supported him during the trial and was on every station badmouthing him, now he claims to be a friend. This so-called rabbi is a jerk!

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                #9.1 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:47 AM EDT
                {"commentId":9723833,"authorDomain":"annarakus"}

                Absolutely! Rabbi the jerk. I am astonished how manipulative and money driven is this individual and for his congregation I feel sorry.

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                #9.2 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:13 PM EDT
                {"commentId":9735762,"authorDomain":"tspider55"}

                yes I agree though did not see whole broadcast only excerpts on internet. whatever shumely is characterized as, those tapes revealed the wounded side of MJ, and in doing so made him more human and helped me to see through all the hype, the stigma, and the negative characterizations of MJ that was thrown at us down through the years from the media.  whereas before MJ was something of a freak, my view has softened considerably.  shumely was right, those tapes have changed how I percieve him. May he rest in peace until that great resurrection day, when we shall hear his pure voice sing with the choirs of heaven.

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                  #9.3 - Sun Sep 27, 2009 2:02 PM EDT
                  {"commentId":9762715,"authorDomain":"mjfan-2"}

                  Shmuley is a pos, he never had MJ's consent to publish these tapes or a book on them, if he had he would have produced the recording with Michael giving his consent for them to be published or a contract signed by Michael Jackson (which NBC would have shown onscreen). Since NBC did not produce either of these things during the program I doubt that MJ wanted these tapes published or aired. NBC is no longer a credible news agency in my opinion.

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                    #9.4 - Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:48 PM EDT
                    {"commentId":9822160,"authorDomain":"natalie-fl"}

                    A true friend doesn't dump you, a true friend hangs around, especially if the going gets tough. He dumped MJ when he needed Shmuley the most. Is this what a true friend does? None of the lame excuses he tries to give will justify to me what he did. Had MJ stolen from him, abused his family or something like that, I can see ending a friendship, but because of the fact MJ was becoming self-destructive, it showed he was crying for help, and Shmuley deserted him. I may not have many friends but I'd sure as hell rather be friendless than have a hypocritical friend like Shmuley. RIP MJ.

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                      #9.5 - Thu Oct 1, 2009 4:48 PM EDT
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                      {"commentId":9717430,"authorDomain":"nbcdatelin"}

                      Meredith,

                      If the 'Rabbi' were being truthful, he would have told you that the real reason why he & Michael Jackson parted ways was that the money intended for the HEAL THE CHILDREN charity was misappropriated. Here was another so-called friend who let him down. That is one of the resons why MJ was so lonely 'cause there was no one he could trust--everyone had an ulterior motive. Now Shumley is back to rob the public with a book he claims was authorized by Michael Jackson. I think it's a boldfaced lie. MJ confided in him & probably didn't even know he was being taped. What Shumley needs to do is contribute all the profits from the sale of the book to charity & pay back that which he took.

                      I see no reason to publish MJ's private feelings. We already know how he felt about his father and the part about Madonna--why hurt her feelings? I hope the other people who see Shumley as a spirtual advisor are now on alert that their private, heart-wrenching feelings might end up being public domain--especially if they are celebrities.

                      Also, your face had such a distasteful look the whole hour. Who forced you to do the interview on him then? When I think of MJ, I see a kind, loving,innocent, wonderful soul. I see nothing ugly or distasteful about him. It is you people in the media who set out to make him ugly & distasteful by promoting books like that pile of crap that Shumley wrote & paying people to tell lies & half truths about him.

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                      Reply#10 - Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:02 PM EDT
                      {"commentId":9722981,"authorDomain":"Isletfemme"}

                      I agree 100% with you. The Rabbi could have taped MJ without his consent. And, why did he have to air the part concerning Madonna, especially after what she said about MJ at the VMA's. It is no wonder MJ was conflicted, tormented. Who wouldn't be, with confidants such as Shmuley.

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                        #10.1 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:57 PM EDT
                        {"commentId":9822464,"authorDomain":"natalie-fl"}

                        Poor Michael, all his friends were enablers and users, like this Rabbi and Doctor Murray. I guess now that Shmuley's stealing ways have been revealed and he's short on money, he's going to sell MJ's personal tapes in order to cash in on him. Awful, even his own family's cashing in on him. Poor MJ came to this earth seeking love, never found it, and has now left us. It's a shame that except for his children and possibly his mother, he never had a chance to experience true, unconditional love.

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                        #10.2 - Thu Oct 1, 2009 5:01 PM EDT
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                        {"commentId":9717553,"authorDomain":"Rachael9700"}

                        Wow, this was really in depth. I feel I understand Michael now more then ever. Just imagine what even more he could have accomplished if he felt validated. Wow.

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                        Reply#11 - Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:14 PM EDT
                        {"commentId":9717717,"authorDomain":"msdjetr2"}

                        Poor Michael, abused as a child & as an adult. Unless the Rabbi gives all the proceeds from this book to Michael's Heal the Children charity then he is exploiting MJ's privacy just like everyone else in the media. Meredith Viera had such a horrible look on her face throughout the interview it was difficult to watch her with her condescending attitude. MJ was deeply scared & damaged by his father & that was the reason for his insecurities which led to his self mutilation, which all that plastic surgery was a form of & the drug abuse that ended his life. He was such a sad & lonely person. At the same time a a great amazing talent who was loved by his fans. I feel so sorry for his children & hope that they will be kept away from that evil Joe Jackson.

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                        Reply#12 - Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:28 PM EDT
                        {"commentId":9719884,"authorDomain":"abcnewsgo"}

                        Joe Jackson is not evil. You need to listen to what Michael said about the changes in his dad. You need to read MJs Oxford speech. am sorry but you have to understand the black experience during slavery to understand why blacks whipped their kids in those day. That is what the slave master did to them and they picked it up. Another ugly legacy from slavery. Don't believe me? Look it up. That form of discipline was not unusual. Marlon said everyone in their neighborhood raised their kids like that. My girlfriend, a PhD was reared in that environment. Don't seek to judge something you don't understand. Read Michael's Oxford speech where he tells the story of his father and other black men. The media wants to demonize Joe for something Michael forgave him for. That's why they didn't let you know the rest of the story and passed off 9 year old tapes as gospel for who MJ was in 2009. On the tapes he said that he was a good grandpa so don't worry about those kids. They aren't yours anyway and you don't know this family personally so stop trying to act like you do.

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                        #12.1 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:45 AM EDT
                        {"commentId":9723389,"authorDomain":"nbcdatelin"}

                        Everyone demonizes Joe Jackson, but I think he was trying to do the best that he knew how based on how he was brought up. I'm not saying he was right for whipping his kids especially if they made a wrong step while practicing, but in those days, parents were real strict & with 6 boys to raise, that's probably how he felt he had to handle it based on what he knew. People back then believed in 'spare the rod-spoil the child' and didn't want to see their kids end up in jail. I'm not defending Joe Jackson--just explaining as I see it.

                        Joe Jackson said he was not able to look at Michael in his casket as he didn't want to remember him that way. I think Joe Jackson loved his kids, but just didn't know how to show it--men especially in the times JJ was coming up-were expected to be tough not sensitive. I believe though that Michael forgave Joe.

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                        #12.2 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:33 PM EDT
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                        {"commentId":9717774,"authorDomain":"diamondgirl1"}

                        This lovely, brilliant man spent his entire life futilely seeking love from the one person who was incapable of demonstrating it to him. As a result he was a wounded and harbored a deep void the world simply could not fill. We thought he had everything, but we can finally now see the personal pain which seems to have permeated much of his existence. We, the public were at times puzzled, and some people judged before knowing the reasons for his vulnerabilities. I am saddened to know he searched for a lifetime for affection, ironically surrounded 24/7 by a world of ardent admirers. I hope he found comfort in the authentic affection from those closest to him, most notably his children. May they live to always know they shone the pure light of love into his life.

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                        Reply#13 - Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:32 PM EDT
                        {"commentId":9717782,"authorDomain":"butkus51"}

                        Watched interview, it was like slowing down and looking at a wreck. I'm sure Brook Shields is tickled about what he said about her but none of this should be out there. Rabbi came across as being creditable and why would Jackson do tapes and not take them if he didn't want them exposed. But still came across as being tacky.

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                        Reply#14 - Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:33 PM EDT
                        {"commentId":9719854,"authorDomain":"abcnewsgo"}

                        He is dead. He did not give his consent. He and this guy parted ways after he allegedly stole money from a charity. They book project was abandoned yet this so-called rabbi, 9 years later decides to use the tapes for his own gain. The estate should sue.

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                          #14.1 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:35 AM EDT
                          {"commentId":9735258,"authorDomain":"lamcphat"}

                          Agreed. I hope the estate does sue this disingenuous Rabbi! Man of the cloth indeed. Poor MJ. It's like he couldn't trust anyone. I hope he has found peace in death. The ' This is It' tour would have been amazing. I feel sorry for his children losing him. However they will have MJ's great legacy and in turn be a legacy for MJ. He has provided well for them as a father in death. They are highly intelligent well adjusted kids. The future may bring great things for MJ's children as they grow into adults. What a horrid man this Rabbi is attempting to cash in on MJ's unfortunate death. Digusting!

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                            #14.2 - Sun Sep 27, 2009 1:19 PM EDT
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                            {"commentId":9717799,"authorDomain":"bostongirlintexas"}

                            I read the so called Michael Jackson tapes and was disgusted at this so called confidant, this spiritual advisor who would bring such harm to a sweet person and his children who still grieve for their father, their only parent. This is the last thing they ever need. For me the failure that is most glaring, just as in the situation with certain physicians, is that there is a higher ethical standard for professionals, not only for ministers, so called confidants, but other professionals and the first imperative is Do NO HARM.

                            Not only do I feel that certain professionals lack this basic standard of conduct in Michael's case, but the media NBC and journalist Martin Brashir caused this man and his family so much harm; it is shameful and exploitive; it is obscene. It demeans the profession of minister, or journalist to act with such complete disregard for such a vulnerable person.

                            It sickens me the way Martin Brashir betrayed and exploited Michael's trust and it sickens me to see yet another trusted confident come crawling from the woodwork at such a time. Seriously do any of these people give one thought to his children. Take some ethics training; act with compassion. USe the Golden Rule.

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                            Reply#15 - Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:34 PM EDT
                            {"commentId":9718047,"authorDomain":"kkeane"}

                            Rest in peace MJ even though the media is determined on not letting you! This added nothing to my understanding of Michael Jackson. He was in a lot of pain - anyone following this brilliant man would already know that. Do we just like to peel back wounds and watch people bleed? In my opinion Dateline, NBC and this man who has the gaul to say he is a spiritual advisor are just another shameful person cashing in on a dead man. As MJ wrote and sang - You make me want to SCREAM! Rest in peace MJ - the King of Pop!

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                              Reply#16 - Fri Sep 25, 2009 11:56 PM EDT
                              {"commentId":9727525,"authorDomain":"juney"}

                              NBC has done more damage to MJ's reputation after his death than any other network.  This is not news.  This is exploitation.  I was a fan of everything NBC, Today, Dateline, even ET Tonight,  but no longer; you have lost a viewer with your tortured attempts to demonize MJ in the eyes of his many loyal fans; it simply will not work.   And these "friends" who suddenly have books out there after his death 3 months ago should be ashamed of themselves.  As for Schmuley,  MJ may have agreed to be taped, maybe even for a "book", but to play the tapes now after his death, out of context, to be heard worldwide, and eventually by his children, 8 years after by his own admission Schmuley terminated their relationship?   This is a man of the cloth?  Spare us all.  RIP, MJ. 

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                                #16.1 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 8:17 PM EDT
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                                {"commentId":9718405,"authorDomain":"Karen-1369119"}

                                My heart is in my stomach. I am a child of severe abuse at the hands of my parents. What he is saying rings so true. People who have not experienced this have no idea how it affects the psyche. I'm not justifying any of Michael's behavior. I'm just saying I deeply understand his pain. And it is so difficult to speak out or get help in our culture. Of course he was seeking the childhood he never had. The psyche is very fragile. Society in general doesn't want to hear or see or know about childhood abuse issues. The only solution they offer is to incarcerate the parent and this is something children, even adult children, often fear. There is no good result for an abused child. We all have to find ways to cope in order to survive in a world in which a child cannot possibly cope! Now we're finally getting a glimpse of what it's like to live in the skin of an abused child! Sorry Michael.

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                                Reply#17 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:35 AM EDT
                                {"commentId":9719906,"authorDomain":"abcnewsgo"}

                                Please read and listen to Michael's Oxford Speech. He overcame with his harsh discipline and forgave his dad in such a beautiful way. It may help you heal as well. And as a former social worker I can tell that yes, there are good results for children who may have grown up in what is considered an abusive home. I've seen it. Good luck to you on your journey.

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                                  #17.1 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 6:51 AM EDT
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                                  {"commentId":9718568,"authorDomain":"jazzy-1369154"}

                                  Wow - what a friend - no wonder MJ dumped this guy. This is total exploitation - I'm sure MJ wouldn't have wanted these tapes released "uncut" The Rabbi didn't have anything good to say about him years ago during the trial. Poor Michael, no wonder he didn't trust anyone - who would? Can you imagine pouring your heart and soul out to a trusted friend and having them turn around and sell your story after you die? MJ was right all along - everyone just wanted a piece of him. RIP MJ - your music, dance and kind spirit will live forever.

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                                  Reply#18 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 12:56 AM EDT
                                  {"commentId":9718806,"authorDomain":"steviem3165"}

                                  This guy Rabbi whatever the hell his name is a snake,just like that Martin Bashir who used MJ to futher his career in TV,both are snakes in the grass,who needs friends when you got emenies.

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                                  Reply#19 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:27 AM EDT
                                  {"commentId":9718849,"authorDomain":"Betty702"}

                                  The Rabbi is just another greedy opportunist trying to cash in on the fame of Michael Jackson's success. This interview is a perfect example of how MJ's friends betrayed him and why MJ was justified for hating the media. The both continue to slander him, even in after his death.

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                                  Reply#20 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 1:34 AM EDT
                                  {"commentId":9719282,"authorDomain":"lenegal77"}

                                  I did see the clip on the Today Show with the Rabbi and Ms. Viera.  As a longtime fan of MJ, I was incensed by Ms. Viera's look of distaste.  Why did you do the interview with the Rabbi, Meridith? 

                                  Hearing the tapes brings me sorrow, but show little new.  Just didn't know how badly MJ was beaten. We knew how lonely he was and why he did not trust people.  Hm, Wonder why. People coming out of the woodwork to make a buck off of MJ, dead or alive.

                                  Rabbi, give the money to charity.  It is blood money.  you should not profit off of your former friend's death.

                                  MJ really was right not to trust anyone.  It seems that all who surrounded him had $$$$$ in their eyes. 

                                  What a damned shame that greed is a God for some.  Is there any journalist or writer who would not sell their family for a buck? Is money that much of a motivator for the unethical people who propigate this earth like cocoroaches?

                                  Let Michael Rest in Peace.  ENOUGH.

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                                    Reply#21 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 2:51 AM EDT
                                    {"commentId":9719336,"authorDomain":"humanxonature"}

                                    Oh Michael, my heart breaks for you. I truly believe that he was a wonderful person and not a child molestor or monster in any way. However he was so lonely and isolated by his fame, and that was bound to cause some psychological problems for him in his life. I hope he is at peace now. <3

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                                    Reply#22 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:06 AM EDT
                                    {"commentId":9719470,"authorDomain":"eleveNumba8"}

                                    I watched this show only because I wanted to hear how it was presented. What I came away feeling was that it was 9 years ago when that taping was made. How much of what was said could be an accurate view of what Michael really wanted to say in 2009? I felt that this was just 2 people sitting and shooting the breeze on the sofa or patio...drinking lemonade and talking about whatever came to mind. So much of what he said in those tape words...was just TALK.

                                    I know that Michael loved his father and he admired him as he stated by saying his father was brilliant, a genius. He forgave his father in the Oxford University speech in England, March 21, 2001. What's clear to me is that Michael had this thought process as a young boy, that he needed a lot of love (more than usual) from his father. He later figured out that his father's love was there, but it was a different type of love than what he (Michael) wanted it to be.

                                    All while I was listening to him describe his childhood trauma, (in his memories) I had the feeling that Michael was not aware of how his father was with his brothers when they were his age. I can see him thinking that he was the youngest and the youngest shouldn't get the same scolding as the older boys...he shouldn't be punished, but instead babied...but this was not Mr. Joe Jackson's way.

                                    I would like to hear the Jackson Brothers tell their stories of how Mr. Joe Jackson was with them before the music started to be a part of their everyday existence. I would like to know if they ever verbally sit and spoke with Michael about their early prepubescent years.

                                    The release of these taped answers from Michael isn't, in my opinion, what Michael's views would have been before his June tragedy. I felt that, like with all of us, we say things in comfort of conversation, that ISN'T totally what we consider a mainstay of our opinions.

                                    In the taped conversations about growing old, Michael was basically talking in a nonspecific way. He has sung in "The Lady In My Life", one of his hit recordings about growing old and grey with the lady. I believe that Michael wanted to have that type of love, but he wasn't able to obtain it, either because life didn't permit it or the right woman was not in his universe to find.

                                    I really wish that the reports and talks about his childhood be put to REST. Michael has a lot more than that to talk about. Without a thorough view of what each and every situation was like in the Jackson household, the subject should be CLOSED. I'm not saying that Michael was not whipped and disciplined for being mischievous or not following his father's determined orders, but I feel that the book should be shut on this because it doesn't change anything. Everyone has their burdens to bare and no one can go back in time to FIX any occurrence in Michael's life or our own lives.

                                    Michael was a GENIUS and he had a talent given to him from God. I'm sure that not once did God ever state that he would have a completely charmed life. He was BLESSED and through all that God gave him, he was also a regular HUMAN BEING of flesh and blood.

                                    I love him (I won't say, LOVED) and I know that from where he's watching right now, he's seeing so much more of this world than he ever saw (and he visited so many parts of this world). I wasn't shocked or surprised by anything I heard on those tapes because it basically means NOTHING at this point in time.

                                    There's the saying..."If I Knew Then What I Know Now"...in my honest opinion, Michael is truly AMAZED in every way, ABOUT WHAT HE DIDN'T KNOW...and the answers to some of those very same questions from 9 years ago would be totally different TODAY.

                                    It would have been so much better to have Michael's thoughts CURRENT in the tapings and in the book. What is the point of airing what was said so long ago?

                                    May Michael be at PEACE and enjoy his AFTERLIFE.

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                                    Reply#23 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 3:45 AM EDT
                                    {"commentId":9730852,"authorDomain":"eleveNumba8"}

                                    I'm replying to my own post because it should have been under the article of group discussion called, "Michael Jackson: 'I am scared of my father'".

                                    For this article, ("Children 'saved me,' Michael Jackson said") I want to say that these words from Michael, in my opinion, were meaningful and true to his heart. There is nothing that can be used against him for stating that he found solace in having children of pure hearts around to help him to feel "safe" from the masses of indestructible vipers manipulating his every move and finding fault in his life, his decisions and his existence.

                                    Michael may not have truly been a Peter Pan, but he felt he could hide away for his own privacy and peace of mind in a Peter Pan like world. Of course, the dissection of his never having a childhood has FOREVER and a DAY become the subject for defining him.

                                    Not once did I ever believe the torrent and horrible stories told about Michael during the 2005 trial. Michael's heart was the most innocent when he was in his most vulnerable state of being. I believe that he enjoyed being young, more than anyone knows, but I don't believe that he wished to leave this world before his time was done.

                                    Michael lived a life unlike anyone else's; he needed more love, more attention, more devotion, and more appreciation...because he lived a HUGE LIFE IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME. His life was GENUINE and his LEGACY is and always will be GOLDEN.

                                    HIS LOVE for his children and the children of the world was unprecedented and in NO WAY was there anything UNNATURAL about HIS LOVE. In this world, people show more love for animals, than they do children and when someone like Michael, a gift from God, showed the same LOVE and CARE for children, he was VILIFIED for it.

                                    The taping of Michael's conversation/expressions of how Children ARE so important and were so helpful to his life should only be looked upon as POSITIVE...because Michael only wanted the parents of the world to understand the preciousness of life that children behold.

                                    Children are BLESSINGS and Michael was a major BLESSING to those of us who cherished his life and his talent because there's only ONE ENTITY WHO DELIVERS BLESSINGS to us...GOD...and Michael always said that he saw the face of GOD in children's faces.

                                    Rabbi Schumley...had the chance to do a great thing--EXPRESS THE POSITIVENESS OF MICHAEL...but he chose to hand Michael's memory over to the Vipers of the world by using Michael's his own words against him...words NOT MEANT to be exposed to the PUBLIC...and words NOT MEANT to be analyzed and used for PROFIT.

                                    I will not buy this book, nor will I accept that Michael wanted to leave us mourning his early departure. Michael wanted to LIVE...just look at the size of his smiles in the clips of the "THIS IS IT" videos. He was glowing with aspirations of showing the world how much he still cared about us who wanted to see him ON TOP defying the negatives hurled at him nonstop.

                                    Michael will always be NUMBER ONE in my heart and in the heart of millions and nothing will ever change that.

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                                    #23.1 - Sun Sep 27, 2009 3:07 AM EDT
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                                    {"commentId":9719542,"authorDomain":"eleveNumba8"}

                                    I watched this show only because I wanted to hear how it was presented. What I came away feeling was that it was 9 years ago when that taping was made. How much of what was said could be an accurate view of what Michael really wanted to say in 2009? I felt that this was just 2 people sitting and shooting the breeze on the sofa or patio...drinking lemonade and talking about whatever came to mind. So much of what he said in those tape words...was just TALK.

                                    I know that Michael loved his father and he admired him as he stated by saying his father was brilliant, a genius. He forgave his father in the Oxford University speech in England, March 21, 2001. What's clear to me is that Michael had this thought process as a young boy, that he needed a lot of love (more than usual) from his father. He later figured out that his father's love was there, but it was a different type of love than what he (Michael) wanted it to be.

                                    All while I was listening to him describe his childhood trauma, (in his memories) I had the feeling that Michael was not aware of how his father was with his brothers when they were his age. I can see him thinking that he was the youngest and the youngest shouldn't get the same scolding as the older boys...he shouldn't be punished, but instead babied...but this was not Mr. Joe Jackson's way.

                                    I would like to hear the Jackson Brothers tell their stories of how Mr. Joe Jackson was with them before the music started to be a part of their everyday existence. I would like to know if they ever verbally sit and spoke with Michael about their early prepubescent years.

                                    The release of these taped answers from Michael isn't, in my opinion, what Michael's views would have been before his June tragedy. I felt that, like with all of us, we say things in comfort of conversation, that ISN'T totally what we consider a mainstay of our opinions.

                                    In the taped conversations about growing old, Michael was basically talking in a nonspecific way. He has sung in "The Lady In My Life", one of his hit recordings about growing old and grey with the lady. I believe that Michael wanted to have that type of love, but he wasn't able to obtain it, either because life didn't permit it or the right woman was not in his universe to find.

                                    I really wish that the reports and talks about his childhood be put to REST. Michael has a lot more than that to talk about. Without a thorough view of what each and every situation was like in the Jackson household, the subject should be CLOSED. I'm not saying that Michael was not whipped and disciplined for being mischievous or not following his father's determined orders, but I feel that the book should be shut on this because it doesn't change anything. Everyone has their burdens to bare and no one can go back in time to FIX any occurrence in Michael's life or our own lives.

                                    Michael was a GENIUS and he had a talent given to him from God. I'm sure that not once did God ever state that he would have a completely charmed life. He was BLESSED and through all that God gave him, he was also a regular HUMAN BEING of flesh and blood.

                                    I love him (I won't say, LOVED) and I know that from where he's watching right now, he's seeing so much more of this world than he ever saw (and he visited so many parts of this world). I wasn't shocked or surprised by anything I heard on those tapes because it basically means NOTHING at this point in time.

                                    There's the saying..."If I Knew Then What I Know Now"...in my honest opinion, Michael is truly AMAZED in every way, ABOUT WHAT HE DIDN'T KNOW...and the answers to some of those very same questions from 9 years ago would be totally different TODAY.

                                    It would have been so much better to have Michael's thoughts CURRENT in the tapings and in the book. What is the point of airing what was said so long ago?

                                    May Michael be at PEACE and enjoy his AFTERLIFE.

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                                      Reply#24 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:00 AM EDT
                                      {"commentId":9719588,"authorDomain":"eleveNumba8"}

                                      There was a problem registering on this site. I did not intentionally post TWICE. Please remove duplicate post.

                                      Thank you.

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                                        Reply#25 - Sat Sep 26, 2009 4:19 AM EDT
                                        {"commentId":9719603,"authorDomain":"betruthful"}

                                        NBC and Rabi Shmuley are sankes. Honestly there was no pointt in many pasrt of this segment. Why purposely try to hurt the living i.e. Madonna , and the Jackson family and whomever else may be affected by the unwarranted and direspectful revelation of Michaels secrets. It is nothing more than a ploy to disenhearten Michaels' supporters and and further misconstrude him. MJ was right the media is a buch of aholes with no respect. Willing to run a story off anything and anyone just for sensationalism. You both (Meredith & Shmuley) are heartless mindless self righteous and nasty no character having people. If you were Michaels true friend you wouldn't be attempting to embarass him in public. No therapists or confident sells their patients sessions. What you have done is immoral and unjustifiable. Snakes.. If Michael Jackson truly wanted any of those thngs said before the public in the magnitude of which theyt were portrayed tonight he would've released it before his death. There was plenty of time to do so. Aslo in the course of 9 yrs anything can change for a person. Who are you to judge who you think anyone is? To try and disect someone life. I think you need to look in the mirror. I was disgusted by the overall tone of this interview. In my opinion you are WORSE than Martin Bashir. A traitor and I hope your book sales fail along with NBC's ratings.

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